Round & Round

Love Less < Round & Round > Best & Marsh

Apologies in advance. What follows is more of a dissertation than a review. Bear with me…

Round & Round is one of my all-time favourite electro-pop tracks, and a real gem amongst the rich pickings of Technique. Whereas for me Fine Time had a real brute-force Wow! impact and felt like a jet engine blast, Round & Round – with its smooth production and refined sounds & structure – is its cooler cousin. Round & Round is the sleek to Fine Time’s swagger.

One of the great things about writing this blog, reviewing each track, and giving each song renewed attention, is that you find yourself looking at New Order’s work from new and unexpected angles. Something bleedingly obvious came to mind as I listened to Round & Round, and it is that New Order – as purveyors of (in this case) electronic dance music – come at the task of song writing as a band. It’s fair to say that the vast majority of dance music is produced by solo artists, a pair of gear wizards, or a small production team, but as we’ve always known (but maybe take for granted sometimes) New Order – with their roots in punk and their branches in post-punk, alternative/indie rock, electronica and techno – come at the task of producing electronic music from a deeper body of experience and wider field of vision, and for that reason their dance music has always been so distinctive, and never ever ‘sounds like everyone else’…

With my ‘electronic music producer hat’ on, I recall strongly connecting with (and analysing) the structure, sounds and production of Round & Round and its accompanying batch of Round & Remixes. With reference to the album version, here’s what glistens in the pan for me:

  • The main electro bassline sequence; particularly the verse pattern with its notes on the off-beat, and that little flurry before it dips down and then jumps up an octave. The chorus pattern also has a real ‘driving forward’ groove. The choice of sound for the bass sequence is spot-on as well, with its classic electro bounce feel.
  • Although the main bassline is handled synthetically, Hook’s bass is used to add texture and colour – particularly during the bridging parts; and for that he shouldn’t feel hard done by at all.
  • The drum machine programming is sweet: house meets techno meets disco, with lots of slip snares and the high/low tom combinations.
  • The stripped back, crystal-clear techno instrumental break, which drops in two phases; the first which feels like you’ve just flown into clean air after Bernard’s series of growly (is that a word?) & percussive guitar chords. The song opens out into just the electro bassline with its full and rich ambience, the bass+snare drum pattern with a couple of short but notable industrial-sounding hits at the end of each bar, and a cropped brass-like synth motif giving the track its house texture. Then the break strips back further to a bar of just drum & bass – simply kickdrums and high/low tom rolls (and – please tell me if I’m getting too forensic here – there’s this sub-second rapid fire of toms in the background which is one of those gorgeous attentions to detail that I’ve mentioned before) – before rebuilding with the brassy motifs in the next bar, the snares coming back 1/2-way through that and the break ending on a Morris hi/mid/low Octapad combo. Love it!
  • Sumner’s vocals, and how the lyrics are delivered with a subtle ‘slowness’ over what is quite a high-BPM track. The FX on the vocals are spot-on, highlighting Bernard’s natural sibilance. He does a great job with his emphasis, emotion and pitching on certain parts of the vocal – e.g. ‘The picture you sssee, is no portraiiit of meee. It’s too rrreal to be shooown to someone Iii don’t know‘; the lyrics of which are apparently a commentary on his problematic professional relationship with Tony Wilson.
  • The orchestra-strike sounds in the intro add to the overall house texture.
  • The bleep sound in the chorus and bridge was still relatively cool, and only later would become the signature of the ‘Bleep’ techno genre a-la Tricky Disco, Sweet Exorcist, et al; and eventually find its way back into indie pop as a cliché.
  • Phasing the whole track as a way to end the song with a flourish.

So that’s the micro view. My overall view is that of a joyous and wonderfully propulsive electro classic; the album-version of which for me remains the definitive one, although the remixes warrant their own discussion because they are particularly good.

There are 3 sets of mixes to consider: Stephen Hague’s, Kevin Saunderson’s, and Ben Grosse’s (the latter two also in collaboration):

  1. Stephen Hague was engaged to remix the album version for main single release, including the Seven Inch (FAC263/7 side A), Twelve Inch (FAC263 side A), and 1994 versions (from The Best Of). Hague, as he is wont to do, brings on board additional synths, strings, ambient motifs, and sequence variations to his versions, supposedly to make the song more radio friendly / accessible; but IMHO with mixed results (no pun intended). The album version has an edginess, separation, drama and clarity that is lost in the added busy-ness of Hague’s versions, and its only really in his full Twelve Inch mix that Hague’s efforts reach their full potential. The Twelve Inch features a terrific extended instrumental intro that layers beautifully, and although it fades in, it doesn’t fade out; which the 7″ and 1994 version suffer cheaply from.
  1. When I first heard that Kevin Saunderson – one of Detroit’s ‘Belleville Three’ originators of techno, and Inner City’s main man – was chosen to remix New Order I thought it was an inspired choice. Having said that, his Detroit Mix (FAC263R side B) just doesn’t quite gel for me. Sure there’s a classic 808/909 techno backbone to the mix – full of handclaps, backspins and echo – which work well with the main electro bassline and chattering sequences from the origin version, but I think the mix would have benefitted from only sparingly using the vocal as samples, and keeping Hooky’s bass out altogether (sorry Peter). It’s like Saunderson’s parts and New Order’s parts were two jigsaw pieces which didn’t quite fit together. His remix could use a remix – pass the scissors…
  1. Ben Grosse’s 12″ Mix* (FACD263R #2) is much better. Like Hague’s, it has a tasty extended instrumental intro, but unlike Hague’s it is far less busy and is closer in tone to the original, with Grosse particularly emphasising the electro bassline and chatty sequencers in his version – not a bad thing. This version includes a particularly good breakdown in the last 1/3, and – like Saunderson – steers the drum programming across (but with greater subtlety) into techno territory.
  1. And finally Grosse and Saunderson collaborated on their Club Mix (FAC263R side A); a version similar in tone and approach to the 12″ Mix above but restructured differently again. It too starts on a layered but more stripped back instrumental intro, perfect for DJ-use, and in that regard is true to its mix name. A nice detail is the later breakdown to Sumner’s funky guitar. This, and the Hague Twelve Inch mix are the best ones – for different reasons and occasions – but all of them have great merit, and you can’t always say that for the remixes  bundled with New Order’s single releases in the years ahead.

With my ‘record label hat’ on, I find Round & Round to be a fascinating case study. The band produces an ultra-cool, groove-laden, leftfield, electronic pop nugget; have it remixed brilliantly, and marketed with one of their best ever video clips; only for the song to chart outside the top-20, resulting in a spat amongst the label directors** – with Tony Wilson resigning as Chairman of Factory Records: FAC 253 – March 1989. How can you not love such an endearing shambles.

With my ‘fan hat’ on I’m just glad to enjoy such a great song. I loved it at the time, and still do. It makes me act like a child.

* Titled the 12″ Mix although its not the same as the main Twelve Inch, and only appeared on vinyl on what is referred to as the FAC263DJ promo 12″ release; although that catalogue number only appears on the vinyl’s side B matrix – the sleeve itself is marked FAC263. So there. Quite a few discographies out there have this all mixed up (no pun intended).

** It’s well documented that the band wanted to release Vanishing Point as a preferred single, and although I agree with Wilson that Round & Round was a strong option for a single, I also agree with Gretton & co that VP would have been an excellent choice. They should have gone with it as the 3rd single instead of Run.
P.S Wilson’s time ‘in the corner’ was brief but symbolic.

Rating: xxxxx

Available on: Technique

11 thoughts on “Round & Round

  1. Really great review. One of your best.

    Absolutely love this track. A superb single. Another great song on my favourite LP of all time; an album where every song seems even better than the last.

    The lyrics and Bernard’s delivery are just brilliant. So cutting and, in parts, spoken with true venom (‘If you mess with me, I’ll get rid of you…’)

    However much I love the album version, the ’12” Version’ just blows it away IMHO. My favourite ‘remix’ (i.e. non-standard version of a track) by any band ever.
    The way the bass sublimely meanders through the intro, escalating the track until the keyboards strike in ferociously.

    Wow… just Wow!
    What a track, what an album, what an absolutely incredible band!
    Sometimes I feel I have to pinch myself to make sure I didn’t just dream up New Order.

    They are musical gods.

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  2. Have to agree with what Colin said some of the best lyrics New Order have produced

    ‘You built a wall of love and tore it right down In front of me’ and then this corker

    ‘The picture you see is no portrait of me, It’s too real to be shown to someone I don’t know
    And it’s driving me wild, It makes me act like a child’

    I also love the album version but the 12″ Mix adds a certain je ne sais quoi and after all these years (is it really 28 years (and counting) ) I still love the Grosse and Saunderson remix found on the ‘Round and Remixes’ releases

    I will echo Colin once again, What a track, what an album … In my top 10 New Order tracks

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  3. My favourite song on Technique, and even gets a spot in my New Order top 10. So much depth, texture and emotional introspection for a high BPM dance track. Perfection

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  4. I’ve been waiting so long, it feels like, for your blog to get to this song. I just love this song, particularly the remix that I am about to address. Firstly, though, I agree with you on practically everything…your near-dissertation (chuckle) was a great read for me.

    I have a remix in my itunes library that is so awesome, but I am unsure, after reading your account, (and after many years of accumulation, and possible mislabelling due to questionable downloading into my library) of which version it really is. In my library, it is identified as the Kevin Saunderson 12″mix, from the BEST REMIXES US DMD compilation. But after reading your account, I’m thinking it might have been mislabeled, and is actually the Grosse/Sanderson collaboration.

    This version that I have, and adore, starts out quietly WITHOUT those loud orchestral stabs, which the original song started out with, and is the only thing about the original song that I was never crazy about. That noise was being done by everyone in that era, and felt obligatory to me, kinda forced. This version that I have is 6:49 in length. It begins and ends with very dj friendly quiet measures. The front of the song is a gorgeous intro using all of the instrumental aspects of the song, repeating after the other like an energizing rock-like instrumental buildup, in a sort of circular pattern, building and building until the final section using Barney’s sample of “makes me act like a child” … That 2:45 buildup is pure dancefloor bliss, and pure car listening bliss. It is New Order’s best remix (in my humble opinion), with only the original Blue Monday being better, in my New Order list.

    Whichever version it is, I never get used to the perfection of that 2:45 intro.
    …. just sayin.

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    1. That’s the original twelve inch version, the extended version of the Stephen Hague single mix. Not any of the Sanderson/ Grosse mixes.


      1. this being added one year later: I just pulled a version off the web labelled “Stephen Hague 12 inch mix” and it is indeed the one I was addressing above, which was mislabeled in my library. sigh. goddarn, I love this version so much.


  5. This track was such a major turning point in my musical interests. I was 14, heard this song on the Radio One Chart Show and thought it was amazing. Purchasing Technique on cassette from my local Woolworths shortly afterwards, I felt more connected to and excited about music than I had ever done before.

    The next step was to explore the back catalogue of this amazing band and, luckily for me, I had heard almost none of it before (Blue Monday and True Faith aside). I started that exploration with Substance…

    I’m loving your blog by the way – great work.

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  6. Round and Round was the first 7″ i ever bought. Loved the track when it came out and still do today. One of my all time favourite NO tracks. For me, i prefer the Steven Hague single version to the album version. More fluid and flows better – but the 12″ is the ultimate version. Perfect. I also think Hooky’s bassline is underrated. Its one of the best melodic NO basslines for me.

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